tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29987981.post3038950899302493904..comments2023-09-20T08:22:20.177-04:00Comments on DTK: Calgary and the Pro-God AdsGreghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04037439918279912195noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29987981.post-55464430570070726602009-03-21T19:32:00.000-04:002009-03-21T19:32:00.000-04:00I think, especially in Alberta, that we do need to...I think, especially in Alberta, that we do need to challenge faith. The religious have a lot of clout in the Stelmach and Harper governments, and left unchallenged will not take Canada in a good direction.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08107622422843170178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29987981.post-4563542013530588052009-03-20T16:47:00.000-04:002009-03-20T16:47:00.000-04:00Well exactly Makarios. My feeling is that we need...Well exactly Makarios. My feeling is that we need to get on with developing a morality for modern times, a morality that doesn't base itself on a book that advocates all sorts of archaic punishments for things we don't even think are crimes anymore.<BR/><BR/>Every moment humanity spends in a church is a moment that could be better spent elsewhere. We were winning by apathy and gentle persuasion.<BR/><BR/>I picture it as a bell curve with everyone sliding toward atheism. When you agitate, it's like dropping a wedge down the middle of the curve. Yeah, you should push some toward the atheism end, where they were going anyway. But you push some to regress back to religion too, clinging irrationally to it as a teenage girl would cling to a loser boyfriend just because her parents hate him.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04037439918279912195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29987981.post-18234834173448282942009-03-20T16:34:00.000-04:002009-03-20T16:34:00.000-04:00Makarios - I didnt mean to say that none of the fi...Makarios - I didnt mean to say that none of the figures in the Bible or other religious texts didnt actually exist. If I did I wouldnt have included the part about divinity. If something isnt historical then clearly is isnt divine either.KChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16932623568330893522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29987981.post-51414032484977164212009-03-20T16:24:00.000-04:002009-03-20T16:24:00.000-04:00I think you're bang on. Don't poke a hornet's nest...I think you're bang on. Don't poke a hornet's nest. It was only thirty years ago that China announced that Christianity was dead; that there wasn't a missionary or Church left. Today, with an estimated 22,000 new Christians every day, China is just 10 years away from being the largest Christian nation on earth. Complacency and wealth among Christians are the atheists best friends.<BR/><BR/>KC, rebutting the historicity of Jesus must be really frustrating with there is such a wealth of extra Biblical evidence attesting to His historicity.Thesauroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305052511095551483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29987981.post-60773061613513724672009-03-20T14:20:00.000-04:002009-03-20T14:20:00.000-04:00Maybe I'm too much of a literalist, but few thing...Maybe I'm too much of a literalist, but few things annoy me like when religious people stretch clear words and deny their obvious meaning. <BR/><BR/>I happen to like the atheist bus ads but think a better strategy is to attack theistic belief systems. Belief in god is relatively benign and rebutting that belief is hard in light of the limits of human knowledge. Rebutting the historicity and divinity of religious figures and texts is much easier. Besides, true dogmatic theorists are far rarer than than those with an abstract belief in "god". I know many people who say they are christian out of some sort of cultural obligation but don't accept the bible as divinely written or inspired.KChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16932623568330893522noreply@blogger.com